Hym "Doug! DOUG! DOUGLAS MURRAY! Do another munk debate! I want to see you do one on whether or not you can trust the NON-MAINSTREAM media. Do one on the Peterson-Sphere! Can we trust them? Are they using the strategies of the Chinese communist party to gain a political advantage they aren't capable of gaining on the merits of their position? Why are they condemning Biden for cooperation with China when they are literally doing the thing that China does to Taiwan? Doug!? Where's Doug? Hey! Do one about whether or not we can trust the unelected non-mainstream media that is actively using their platform to engage in economic coercion and threatening to use it again in the future! Are they trustworthy Doug? Because they decry communism but... They are doing a communism.... Doug? I... I don't thing he can hear me.... DOUG!"
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The debate about how to properly conduct a debate, which inevitably becomes a more heated and pedantic debate than the original one. It's when the argument shifts from the topic (e.g., "Is pizza a sandwich?") to the rules of engagement ("You're using an ad hominem!", "No, that's a tu quoque!"). It's the rhetorical equivalent of two lawyers arguing over courtroom procedure while the jury dies of old age. The goal is no longer to persuade, but to win by declaring the other person's entire mode of discussion invalid.
Example: "We started arguing about rent control, but within minutes we were in a full meta-debate about logical fallacies, burden of proof, and the definition of 'evidence.' Two hours later, we'd solved nothing about housing but were deeply angry about the proper use of the Socratic method."
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Get the Meta-Debate mug.A debate that begins before the participants have fully understood the topic, defined their terms, or agreed on the rules of engagement. It’s a race to speak first rather than to understand best, guaranteeing confusion and talking past one another.
Example: "The 'discussion' on climate change instantly became a hasty debate. Within 30 seconds, they were shouting about Al Gore's electricity bill and winter snowstorms, having never agreed on whether they were debating the science, the economics, or the politics of the issue."
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Example: "What started as a debate about pizza toppings swept into a debate about Italian cultural appropriation, the agricultural industry, animal ethics, and the philosophy of taste. Two hours later, no one knew if pineapple was acceptable, but everyone was angry about capitalism." Sweeping Debate
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Example: "The general debate on the new city budget was civil and informative. The mayor presented her proposal, the council outlined counter-proposals, and they argued over line items and priorities within the agreed-upon framework of civic improvement and fiscal responsibility."
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Example: "The special debate in the theoretical physics seminar was over the holographic principle's implications for a specific black hole entropy calculation. To the room, it was a gripping, high-stakes intellectual duel. To the janitor mopping outside, it sounded like two wizards arguing in Elvish."
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